**Making New Computer** HELP!

[Rambo]

:lamer::

Ok so im gunna make a new computer, i really dont know what im doin when it comes to harddrives, motherboards, etc, so um i was wonderin if you guys could give me some info thx

[Shadowbane]

what are you looking to build????

[shanKs]

We need a lot more info than that. I'm assuming it's going to be a gaming rig. Most importantly we need to know a budget. Is there anything from your old computer that you will use on the new one? Need more info!

[BuddhaMan]

How about visiting the tech forum and posting this question there...

And the answer is "yes", I'm too lazy ATM to move this thread there... :D

[Sasha]

why can't he post it here mr. nazi! :P

[Rambo]

We need a lot more info than that. I'm assuming it's going to be a gaming rig. Most importantly we need to know a budget. Is there anything from your old computer that you will use on the new one? Need more info!

Only thing thats really worth anything to me that i would use from my old computer would be the 9800 pro gc, other then that, about 1400$? N buddha why u hate me!? Listen to em --> :hippie:

[Hexum]

You should be able to build a nice one for that. I am sure they will slam you with info now.

[B_G3ntl3]

i suggest you use the 1400 to buy a plan ticket to dallas...break into czech's place and steal one of his many machines

[Mozartt]

Wow, $1400 will buy a lot of PC. Just ordered the parts for a top of the line game PC and it was about that price and I'm not using anything from my old PC. I would upgrade the video card as well, they have some really nice 256 meg cards at very nice prices.

[|IB|NieN]

If you have your old ATX case/Powersupply you can use, that would free up some cash.

If you are buying a gaming machine, do NOT buy an Intel CPU. Intel does not make good chips when it comes to gaming... They are more of a multitasking office applications kind of chip.

Buy an Athlon 64 4000+, an Asus Motherboard... I wouldnt suggest buying an SLI/PCI Express motherboard if you plan on using your current Graphics Card, Corsair XMS Ram (at least 1 gig of ram) and you are about set. All the rest is the cheap shit.

[Artis]

if you upgrade all of that then you will need a high quality power supply. check the technical forum for recommendations on those. and yes buddha is a thread nazi.

[|IB|NieN]

If his powersupply is good enough to power his current PC with a 9800Pro.. it should be good enough to run the setup I suggested without a better powersupply... although it is always a good idea to have a high end powersupply with stable rails.

I like Antec PSupplies.

[Artis]

as 64 4000 cpu will require a hefty amt of power and its always good to get a quality pwr supply.

[|IB|NieN]

Processors are taking less and less power nowadays. The lower the nanometer the lower the power consumption/heat output.

The 4000+ is still only .13 nanometer I think, but Ill bet it doesnt take anymore of a powerdraw than say a 1.2 ghz Athlon Thunderbird.

Just a guess.

[Artis]

i think a 1.2 tbird requires like 50something watts and a 64 is closer to 90 which is a fairly large difference. here is a useful calculator if you are interested. http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/

[Rambo]

hey, ill just buy a better powersupply and leave it at that :dance2: , thanks for all the info guys, helps alot, oh and i was gunna go to dallas and shit but im goin w/ some of my friends to france at the end of june so i wont be able to :(

[BuddhaMan]

I don't hate you and the POINT is, there's a tech forum with a few recent threads going over this same info. Now if Joe Blow who doesn't check this forum wants to build a machine, he'll never see this info and people will have to repeat themselves.

wheel = reinvented

[|IB|NieN]

Well then I guessed wrong!

Hehe.. I have been out of the game too long.

[Rambo]

:stupid:

[|IB|NieN]

:(

Hey! There WAS a time when I knew what I was talking about hehe

The lower the nanometer the less power consumption is supposed to be a general rule. I guess not eh. What the hell was the 1.2 tbird? a .18

[Rambo]

hey what would happen if i bought an athlon 64 3800+ instead of a 4000+?

[BuddhaMan]

l'OH mon dieu! You're going to France instead of Dallas. What the hell!? :)

[Rambo]

The france is a school thing, i get to go for a disccount :feelmeh:, besides theres always next year, unless arsonal dies of smoking or something

[=DBA=Ronin]

hey what would happen if i bought an athlon 64 3800+ instead of a 4000+?

If its due to the difference in price, go with the 3800. It wont post the same numbers as a 4000 but it will still scream and it's doubtfull any joe schmoe will notice a difference between the two.

[Rambo]

k, yea cus its a 200$ difference :\

[Rambo]

ok so i set up a wish list on www.newegg.com check it out its called PC07

[shanKs]

I can't find it under the wish lists. Make sure you've selected to "share this wish list with others". Also a direct link would be nice too.

[Rambo]

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/WishDetail.asp?position=HISTORY&ID=1493120&WishListTitle=PC07

there u go sexy :beerdrink

[BuddhaMan]

Yeah, ummm...you need a newegg login to see that.

EDIT: And...there is no shared list with a name of 'PC07'.

[Rambo]

Athlon 64 3500+, Thermaltake 420W PS, ASUS A8N-SLI Mobo, Corsair ram 1gig, Seagate baracuda 200gb Ata150 HD, SONY CRX230AD IDE CD Burner (cd-rw drive)(thats a cd-writer right?), and a creative sound blaster audigy 2, :dance2:, oh, thermaltake chasis and a samsung syncmaster 17" lcd, do i need anything else

[Artis]

id go with a sata hd.

[Rambo]

alright, thats the one thing i was questionable about

[=DBA=Ronin]

you may as well swap the cd burner for a dvd burner. They are almost the same price and they burn both dvd and cd. Id also get a different sound card. I will post a different one on my lunch break, gotta get to work. Creative SUX!!

[Rambo]

ok so i switched the creative to an M-Audio, i switched the harddrive with a western digital, and the cd burner to a dvd burner

[=DBA=Ronin]

ooops...forgot to post the s/c as I said I would. Here is the one recomended to me. I haven't bought it yet but after Dallas I intend to.

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=FORTISSIMO71-NP&cat=SND

[BuddhaMan]

I have a Hecules Game Theater XP 7.1 soundcard if you want some info on it.

Ronin: that's the one that makes me go Roboto on Vent. I haven't sounded like a robot in a while becuase I started using Vent on my craptop while listening on my speakers on the game rig. This also explains why I can't hear people creeping around as goo as you guys.

[=DBA=Ronin]

I have a Hecules Game Theater XP 7.1 soundcard if you want some info on it.

Ronin: that's the one that makes me go Roboto on Vent. I haven't sounded like a robot in a while becuase I started using Vent on my craptop while listening on my speakers on the game rig. This also explains why I can't hear people creeping around as goo as you guys.


Interesting. I have become anti-creative mainly due to their fucking garbage software and empty capability promises. I use the digital output on my s/c to hook up to my h/k reciever and it is SUCH a pain in the ass to get a movie with Dolby Digital or DTS to pass through the card. Every now and then I get lucky and it works, but usually it takes quite a while to figure all the shit out.

On top of that, the EAX environments are pure shit. When I set it up in CoD I get so many loud pops and hitches it doesn't pay to keep it on that level. The supposed imaging it's supposed to simulate is decent, but with all the interferance its just not worth it.

When I get back from Dallas and have some disposable income again, I am going to try that other card, even if I have to vent on my other comp...ill just build a little mux device so I can still use my headphones too.

[BuddhaMan]

Small DJ mixing board would werk. I may do that myself...

[Artis]

i actually wonder how many cod players use anything besides the miles 2d sound. i have the same problem as ronin does with the eax. i can hear lots of stuff but i also cant hear my own gun fire in real time. i can hear it like 2 seconds later.